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Your link to the large-scale international survey doesn't work, I am assuming it is this https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-024-02090-5.

I really like this article, and if I had the time I'd expand on my response to it, but to try and boil down my thoughts to their barest essence:

- This seems to position the goal as defending science, but if science were shown to be a bad method, then I wouldn't think it worth defending / holding on to. The goal, to me, is truth. If anyone can show me a better method than the scientific method, then I will adopt that. I accept science itself only provisionally.

- The replication crisis is an example of the practice of science/academia failing, but also how it can correct its failures. The nature and scope of it, where there is a massive inflection point of us suddenly finding out that many methods are less reliable than we thought, is wrong. Detecting it is good, but corrective measures were clearly not being applied for quite a long time.

- I think it is notable that the replication crisis isn't talked about much by people who generally are science-optimistic in public. Despite a lot of claims that had spread into public discourse failing replication, or being much more limited in nature and scope, there is little discussion about the role science played in this misinformation. Given the partisan nature of many of these claims, it makes academia come across as one-sided.

- Science shouldn't require trust, nor should it revolve around credentialism. Terrence Howard is talking about math in the example given, but him being an actor doesn't in and of itself discredit his position. Most lay people lack the background in order to make a good critique, but from their perspective, when they think they have a valid point, dismissing them out of hand based on their profession is both intellectually vacuous and understandably off-putting.

- Due to differences in definitions, I think experts often make incorrect and indefensible statements in discussions with lay people. Economists talking about "efficiency" is a pretty good example of this, where economic efficiency isn't quite what ordinary people typically think about in terms of efficiency.

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